On this episode of the Carl Nelson Show, the host begins by asking about the repatriation of Haitian refugees, and Gerald Horne finds himself fielding almost an hour of questions from callers primarily asking about the immigration issue. For example, see:
1:04:37 Reagan versus Biden on immigration
1:09:37 Calls for more border enforcement?
1:09:38 In reference to the Buffalo soldiers and “Indian territory”
1:19:10 Types of immigrants
1:32:27 The withdrawal from Afghanistan
When the conversation shifts to the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the possibility of imperialist extraction in its wake, Horne answers:
The short answer is that when the U.S. was involved in Afghanistan, we cut deals with many warlords, shorthand for gangsters, that’s number one. Number two: Afghanistan is quite rich with mineral wealth, which ironically enough, may end up going to the People’s Republic of China, which is quite close to the Pakistanis, which was the major creator and backer of the Taliban, who are now in power. The third point, however, is that the Taliban is going to have a hard way to go…”
Dr. Horne begins at 51:42.
In addition to The Dawning of the Apocalypse: The Roots of Slavery, White Supremacy, Settler Colonialism, and Capitalism in the Long Sixteenth Century, Gerald Horne is author of The Apocalypse of Settler Colonialism: The Roots of Slavery, White Supremacy, and Capitalism in Seventeenth-Century North America and the Caribbean, Jazz and Justice: Racism and the Political Economy of the Music, and Confronting Black Jacobins: The United States, the Haitian Revolution, and the Origins of the Dominican Republic, all published by Monthly Review Press.